Season 5, Episode 4: Meggin Part 2

Introduction: In the second part of the episode, Meggin reflects on her son's high school years, highlighting his compassionate nature. The narrative unfolds to reveal significant changes before college – a noticeable loss of energy and breakdowns in communication. Meggin courageously shares her son's accusation of emotional abuse, revealing the strain on their relationship. Throughout, she advocates for openness and compassion in addressing mental health challenges, stressing the interconnectedness of individuals and the pressing need to eradicate the stigma and shame linked to these struggles. This episode encapsulates an exploration of resilience, support, and the continuous quest for mental health awareness and understanding.

Observations in High School

  • Meggin reflects on her son's high school years, describing him as a compassionate and supportive individual.

  • Talks about the noticeable changes before he left for college, including loss of energy and communication breakdown.

  • Meggin recounts her son's accusation of emotional abuse, leading to a strained relationship before college.

Understanding Psychotic Episodes

  • Meggin shares insights into psychotic episodes, recounting her son's experiences with disorganized thinking, short attention spans, and altered perceptions.

  • Meggin talks about moments of fear and precautions taken, shedding light on the complex relationship between mental illness and violence.

  • The conversation delves into Meggin's struggles and moments of despair, emphasizing the importance of self-care.

Finding Strength and Coping Mechanisms

  • Meggin discusses finding strength and coping mechanisms, from therapy to engaging in activities like oil painting, writing, and volunteering.

  • Meggin shares insights into how her son's illness has affected her marriage, highlighting the partnership with her husband and their collaborative navigation of challenges.

Breaking the Silence and Building Support

  • Addressing societal stigmas, Meggin encourages open conversations about mental health, touching on historical blame and the shift towards shared responsibility.

  • Meggin provides an update on her son's current status, discussing his part-time job, challenges, and aspirations. She candidly shares struggles with maintaining hope and the ongoing need for better treatments.

NYU's On Track Family Support Group

  • Meggin sheds light on her work with NYU's On Track Family Support Group, detailing her role as a family connector and the group's aim to support caregivers.

  • Meggin highlights the collaborative nature of the mental health community, emphasizing the need for education and understanding among healthcare providers.

Final Thoughts and Encouragement

  • In concluding the discussion, Meggin encourages openness and compassion in addressing mental health challenges, emphasizing interconnectedness and the need to eliminate shame.


Susie Gurley

Susie Gurley is the founder and host of Just a Mom podcast. Susie's journey to becoming a mental health advocate began after her youngest son's battle with depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. She and her husband, Dan have an amazing family, including three children, a daughter-in-law and a son-in-law.

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